It would appear that on May 7, d l did say: > remove the /dev/cdrom entry in /etc/fstab then it won't > automount anymore Yeah that would do it "d l"... But then how would I: $ mount mountpoint ???? I don't want to disable mounting these drives. I also don't want to stop applications like kscd, xcdroast, ogle, xine, etc... from being able to automatically access them (when said applications are running.) And I most certainly don't want to lose "user" command line control over mounting/unmounting them. All I want to stop is ANY automatic behavior being triggered by inserting a cd or dvd into either of those drives. I want the ability to choose if it's going to be mounted, or not, and at which mount point. And what application, if any, I may or may not be accessing it with. Which most certainly would not include a gui file browser like konqueror. I find the mc command shell much more useful for that. I just dislike to have to wait for konqueror to open just so I can kill it. And I dislike having to unmount something I never chose to mount. -- | ^^^ ^^^ | <o> <o> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ___ <<jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx>> | | <sigh>