I am at my wits end. This is/ is intended to be a production machine to test and package our software, and I must get going. The system: AMD XP 2800+ Barton Asus a7n8x-la Nforce2 mobo Nvidia mx-440 onboard graphics 512mb PC-2700 120gb Western Digital hd Samsung 16x DVD-ROM Cyberdrive 52x CD-R/RW Generic Floppy drive 6-port Media Card Reader Since Gnome looked to be working OK, I went ahead and reinstalled adding the database and other packages I will need and I am back to where I was before, can't login. I booted single user, tried to su to my user and get su: Incorrect password. Changed password and same. Created dummy user, password and same. CD /HOME ls -l shows drwx 3 user 500 ... drwx 3 user2 user2 ... I know ther are folks out there that know this stuff, while I can still call it "stuff", and I could sure use an idea of what to do next. I have cleaned up this message history to make it easier to read. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:08 AM >From Gnome desktop, I was able to logout user, login root, over and over. Tried it from terminal again and same symptom. Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 8:28 AM Load with Gnome desktop went OK. Am able to boot from floppy. From Gnome desktop/terminal, I was able to su to root, su to user, and then got same symptom trying to su back to root. Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 7:44 AM df shows hdb2 as /, hdb1 as /boot, and none as /dev/shm.??? Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 7:41 AM After another minimal install, I was able to add my user and su to it and su back to root. By the way, I was unable to boot using the boot floppy. Apparently set a password (all authentication tokens updated successfully) and change again to my user. However, it did not ask for a password. Was able to su to root and user several times. Do get "/bin/bash: /root/ .bashrc: permission denied" message. Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 6:56 AM Still fighting, and need some ideas. I did a minimal install and was able to login as root, create and login to my user. All looks well. Installed again, adding only X-windows. X did not start with boot. Ran startx & to get session. Same story but was unable to su - after logging as my user. Started another x session and was able to su - from there, however I was not able to su back to root after changing back to my user again. Tried in another X and same symptom. Again same. This should be a good clue, I would think. It is like it does not read the passwd when I return. Have to ctrl c to get out of the passwd entry on the su -. Don't know if I tried the su root...user...root in the minimum install, so I am going to do that again. Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 2:07 PM I solved the dual boot problem. There is a setting for how long the boot option display, and it was set to 0. Set it to 10 and it works fine. The login problem is still a problem. I have reloaded FC1 once again and I still cannot login, root or my user. The passwd and edited shadow files are attached in case I am missing something. Jeff Vian Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 12:22 PM As far as Fedora not allowing user login; I usually use the system tool for user admin from the menu and as long as I create the user account and put in the password for that user they always can log in. >>>I installed Fedora, default server on a new slave drive on my HP pavilion >>>a320n XP system. When booting after the install, the fedora boot will not >>>accept my user or root password. Under "linux single" I can see that the >>>user and root accounts exist. I can create a user, and that works OK. I >>>cannot login. >>>