Matthew Miller said: > As I understand it, those two questions basically answer each other. > Firefox and Thunderbird are both pre-1.0. pre 1.0 means nothing as far as production ready. version numbers are arbitrary, and the open source community is alot more hesitant to label things 1.0 than alot of things on the windows side of town. i have 135 packages (i admit i subscribe to extras, but that's the only non core package list i install from) that are pre 1.0, 7 that are pre 0.2 and one that is pre 0.1 (printman) -d [root@smallberries root]# rpm -qa --queryformat "%{VERSION} %{NAME}\n" | grep '^0\.' | wc -l 135 [root@smallberries root]# rpm -qa --queryformat "%{VERSION} %{NAME}\n" | grep '^0\.0\.' | wc -l 1 [root@smallberries root]# rpm -qa --queryformat "%{VERSION} %{NAME}\n" | grep '^0\.1\.' | wc -l 7 -+(duncan brown -+(duncanbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -+(http://www.linuxadvocate.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ - against microsoft attachments Blessed is the man who, having nothing to say, abstains from giving wordy evidence of the fact. -- George Eliot