Can someone explain this to me? Does every FC1 KDE do this? Or is my machine just weird? The details: I just noticed an odd thing while rearranging the appearance of my desktop. I decided that I wanted the "panel" to appear at the top of the screen rather than the bottom. No biggie, I think, <alt+F1> -> Preferences -> Configure Panel: click on one of the upper position markers -> Apply -> OK [done deal] But for some reason beyond my understanding, the panel was then positioned only _ALMOST_ at the top. That is there is a stripe of the desktop background image visible above it. I experimented with positioning a konsole window at the top by dragging it. It was weird to see the window menu, minimize, maximize, & close buttons visible above panel. While the panel obstructed my view of the session, edit, view, bookmarks, settings, & help menu labels... I tried resizing the panel, hiding and unhiding, And selecting in turn each one of the three top panel position buttons All with the same effect. If I select a bottom panel position the panel is displayed at the bottom of the screen so that NOTHING is visible below it. But if I select a top position there is a stripe of usable screen above it??? This happens regardless which one of the 4 desktops is active. It's not a big deal, but I find it so annoying I gave up and returned the panel to the bottom of the screen. If anyone else has seen this happen in KDE with FC1, or has a clue what causes this, please do tell. Thanks! If it matters I've got a P3 with a rage 128 card in it. And my monitor is a 17 inch multiscan...A -- | ? ? | | -=- -=- I'm NOT clueless... | <?> <?> But I just don't know. | ^ Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | --- J(tWdy)P | <jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx> | ? ?