hi there: thanks for all your help getting me set up. i am almost there..... i hope;) just another quick one. i am trying to remove a (sound) module by typing: /sbin/rmmod soundcore and i get this: soundcore: Device or resource busy do i need to release it first? how do i do this? is soundcore the default sound driver in Fedora? i want to put a new driver in and want to make sure that i remove the right one. i am setting my Fedora up with Pd and other audio composition programs. info on this is at: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/installkernelandsound.html many thanks again CHUN