On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 01:57:13PM +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jay Daniels [mailto:drs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 10:01:12AM +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > > > > > How about Archiving the emails? How do we do that using > > Maildir format? > > > (one of the reason I've not moved my laptop's mail format > > to maildir) > > > > Use tar to archive Maildir or mbox. Maildir creates a file > > for each message which uses an inode for each file. You could have > > plenty of disk space left but run out if inodes and your system would > > crash! This has happen to one system I was managing and I > > learned about > > the "df -i" command to check disk inode use;) > > Gotcha > > > If the only reason you are wanting to use Maildir format is because > > you want the mail delivered to your ~/mail instead of > > /var/spool/mail/$USER think about using a .forward file and procmail > > instead. > > Actually, the reason for Maildir is cause I was thinking I can > get procmail to just put the correct mails in the correct folder. > But for this to happen, I found out also that I need to use IMAP > and not POP3/POP3s. > > > > > In my .forward I have: > > "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #drs" > > WHat's IFS?? I tried man .forward and man forward. No match. > I take it that the input mail and just forwards it to procmail > for processing? Internal Field Separator, such as a ' ' space. > > > > > In my ~/.procmailrc I have an entry like: > > # Deliver to ~/mail/inbox instead of mail spool to control > > # usage. hum, no need to do maildir or run procmail suid;) > > # $HOME and ~/mail is chmod 700! > > DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox > > > > note: the $MAILDIR variable in the .procmailrc has nothing to do with > > Maildir format! > > > > All my mail unless another filter catches it is send to ~/mail/inbox > > which is in mbox format. I am working on setting this up system wide > > in /etc/skel > > Let me understand properly. Mail comes in, .forward processes it and > forwards to procmail, procmail proceses the file for > SPAM/Virus/X-Been-There/ > To/List-ID etc and puts it into (say Fedora-list) > ~/evolution/local/Inbox/subfolder/Linux/subfolder/Fedora and for whatever > that > procmail does not capture, it's sent by default to ~/evolution/local/Inbox > > Did I get that right?? I don't know what file format evolution uses. I use mutt and squirrelmail. I think evolution can read mbox files locally, but I don't know how to get rid of all those evolution default folders in the list. I do not think evolution has good header customization support. For instance, try changing the X-Mailer header, you may have to recompile evolution to do such changes, idonno. With mutt you have almost total control of outgoing messages. Try this, get pine or mutt and your mail filters setup and working. Then setup evolution to read mail from your mail directory or just use imap to read mail with evolution. I think this would be easier than starting with evolution. > > But that's presuming that the mails are received on the local Machine. > (via POP from Server) > > For this to happen also on the server, the server must run maildir format > (and not mbox) and also IMAP protocol for user@local-machine to be able > to connect to it and then he'll just have to transfer the emails to by hand > to his local folder. Hmm...not an elegent solution. (for someone that don't > exactly stores mails on the server) > > > > Don't just insert those file if you want to do that inbox thing. > > What inbox thing? See above, I don't know what file format evolution uses. I use mutt, but any mua should work if you use imap to access the mail. As I stated, I think evolution will do local mbox files too, but I'm not sure it if incs the mail into the evolution folder which use a special format or not. The ideal setup is have all mail in ~/mail and be able to access those same folders and messages with whatever email client you want to use. By inbox thing, I mean my mail is sent to ~/mail/inbox instead of /var/spool/mail/$USER I think this gives administrators control over user's quotas as far as the mail is concerned. That is if you want to learn how to setup quotas later on... My post was to show you that you don't need to use Mailbox format to use procmail and filter mail! You can use a .forward and .procmailrc along with .procmail/rc.list etc. IMAP is a remote protocol for accessing mail folders. You would want to use IMAP to connect to your ~/mail from another computer instead of using pop3 to download all mail to that computer. Besides, if you used procmail to store mail from the list in ~/mail/in-fedora-list then pop3 would not be able to access that mail! A remote IMAP connection would allow you to view mail in all folders and files under your mail directory! You need to keep all your mail in one place and be able to acces it from anywhere! jay > > > There is a little more to it, read the procmail and .forward howtos. > > Search google on how to set it all up. > > > > Maildir is not all it's cracked up to be and since Fedora is setup to > > use mbox by default, adding the .forward and using procmail will not > > affect any system config files or other users. > > > > As for imap, imap lets your mail stay on the server which is good for > > home users so you can read all your mail from any network connection > > while using another computer. > > I've no such need there > > > > About Maildir > > If anyone knows any reason to use Maildir format beside just putting > > mail in your home directory, please comment? I personally don't see > > any benefits since mbox has worked great for years on many systems > > around the world. > > I like Mbox format. Easier for me to save/archive. > But then again, I'm biased, I've never used maildir before. > > > Thanks
