I can't remember where I got the rpm's for mc but it's running on my system. Check the CD's or one of the online depositories. I suspect you can just install it. Fedora doesn't use pine (they don't like the license agreement). Do a google for the Fedora rpm and install it. I'm typing this now in pine. I don't know what lyx is but I believe it's also in the distribution but not automatically installed (like mc). For these you can always install using up2date, apt or yum. I like yum. -- Gerry "The lyfe so short, the craft so long to learne" Chaucer
