Havoc Pennington wrote: > Firefox may explicitly set its initial window position, but be too > unsophisticated to notice the panel there. > > If you run "xprop" and click on the firefox window, the section > WM_NORMAL_HINTS may indicate "program specified position" or "user > specified position" which would create this problem. Yes, xprop for firefox does indicate "program specified location": WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS): program specified location: 0, 0 program specified minimum size: 0 by 0 window gravity: NorthWest And I notice that line does not appear when I run xprop on an Evolution or gnome-terminal window, both of which open correctly. Is there a config file for this somewhere where commenting that instruction out for firefox might solve the problem? Thanks, Bill