Hello Everybody, After some research, I was able to discover that installation for the flash player was far different tham what macromedia made it out to be. Pretty sure the directions were geared more toward Red Hat 8 and below. using the plugin help on the mozilla browser pointed me in the right direction and everything works fine now. Thanks for the listening ear though it is appreciated. I'm finding out that if you get the terminology down then working with it is a snap. MButterman __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you?re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com