On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 14:23, Dave Jones wrote: > All throughout the development of 2.5, there was very little (if any) > input from the developers/users of drivers/net/hamradio. As a result > lots of that code doesn't even compile right now, so isn't enabled in > FC2 test1. One reason may be that the most commonly (if you call common at most a few thousand people) used features have been moved out to user space. Recently the need for the kernel modules is often a special case. (i.e. if you need multiple connections to a KISS interface or AX.25 networking) But, it would be a shame to lose the AX.25 networking because it allows normal TCP/IP services to work over slow, long-haul RF networks. I think the main kernel modules that are needed are mkiss and ax25. I think the rest can be done in userspace. A simple KISS interface can be done entirely in userspace (via soundmodem and /dev/sm0). As far as lack of input... I've tried to drum up some interest in various mailing lists to get this stuff organized. But its a lot like talking to a brick. I'd like to put together patches and a YUM repository for ham radio stuff. (Debian has a large set of ham radio packages, for example. Except most have not been updated in a decade and half of them never worked right or at all. You send a bug report, the maintainer acknowledges it is a bug, 2 years later its untouched.) It's just a total waste of good time if no else one wants to do anything. Any progress on that front is going to require a few warm bodies who know what they're doing and can tackle different aspects of the problem. Its really not good enough that the code compiles. It needs to be debugged, documented, organized, made usable by normal people, and it needs to follow the standards and guidelines set forth by whatever distribution it supports. Unfortunately, projects to organize/maintain all the ham radio software seem to fizzle out after a week or two. There's so much ham radio software "out there" that's almost good enough but needs to be polished and centrally organized. If some group wants to do something about that then let me know. I'm willing to help with GUI improvements, packaging, documentation, debugging but I'm just not able to do _all_ the work. I don't have much clue how software QPSK, AFSK, whatever works and I'd really rather someone who does know work on that code. But I'd love to unscrew their horrible GUI, create desktop launchers, and build a nice RPM. ;-) -- David Norris http://www.webaugur.com/dave/ ICQ - 412039
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