If you want to spend money, I've read that codeweavers crossover office (www.codeweavers.com) handles Dreamweaver and Fireworks MX pretty well on Linux. I've installed Screem (I think I got it at http://yarrow.freshrpms.net) I haven't been using it, but it looks like a combination of Adobe Pagemill and Netscape Composer. I'm almost sure it can't compete with DW MX but you can try that. It *IS* WYSIWYG Marc D.M. www.phronein.com -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Alderson Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 09:22 To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Web development on FC1 On 16 Feb 2004, at 14:13, Jason Dixon wrote: > > On Feb 16, 2004, at 8:43 AM, Martin Alderson wrote: >> >> On 16 Feb 2004, at 13:34, Alexander Dalloz wrote: >> >>> vim or (x)emacs. Highly commended. >> >> Your kidding, right? >> >> There is no way you can design a heavily graphical site using a text >> editor. > > That's a load of crap. I'm not going to suggest that using text > editors suits everyone, but there's NOTHING stopping a talented > designer from coding sites "by hand". It helps to ensure compliancy > with HTML/CSS and really allows the developer to become much more > familiar with the intracacies of his/her code. > > Obviously, some folks prefer the ease-of-user and management > capabilities of Dreamweaver, et al, but there are others who are just > as happy with vi, cvs and ssh. Looking at your site, I don't see > anything that couldn't be rewritten in vi within a matter of hours. > > I still use vi and The Gimp on my Powerbook to design sites. :) Ok, basically I should of said 'design a heavily graphical site _efficently_. I'm sure you can create a site with a text editor (and I do it sometimes over SSH if I'm out of measures) and it will work fine. However, I use Dreamweaver because a) it has a half decent 'source' tab to edit with (which I do most of my stuff in) and b) I can lay stuff out graphically without constantly having to redo CSS. Also, I find that being able to use split screen code and design view allows me to code as I usually would but also have the benifit of not having to save, go to a webbrowser and refresh every 15 seconds is a great benifit. Also, there is a real lack of vector based graphic tools (like Fireworks) on Linux. I can't stand using The GIMP or Photoshop for anything more than editing a photo. It's also good to see a fellow Apple user here :), btw. Martin Alderson, IntechHosting Email: martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.intechhosting.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list