I just saw a nice example of a borderless eterm.. Eterm -Ox --shade 0 -g=100x15+250+1240 --no-cursor -n messages -T messages --scrollbar off -f yellow --buttonbar 0 -e grc tail -f /var/log/messages but that was from a debian machine.. so grc isn't a valid command.. apparently it's to nice color output.. what would be the equiv for fedora? any ideas? TIA Craig