Ditto - Save yourself a heap of trouble and buy a decent card. The chipsets mentioned below are all good. Unfortunately even some "name brand" manufacturers are now using the 8139 chipset. Yecchhh. Cheap has a place but not in servers. Regards, MRW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Welty" <rwelty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: Re: 8139too driver has problem? > On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:27:11 +0900 SHIBUYA Katsutoshi <shibuya@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I found a document mentioning about such problem; > > http://linux24.sourceforge.net > > Here they say "RTL 8139 cards sometimes stop responding. Both drivers > > don't handle this quite good enough yet." > > but in the "Fixed" section... > > the realtek 8139 and related chips are simply not very good ethernet > chipsets. because they're cheap, they are however depressingly > common. i tolerate them in workstation applications but quite frankly > they're bad news in servers because they fall apart under heavy > loads. the design is fundamentally flawed (Theo de Raadt wrote > an extensive and informative diatribe about how bad they are > on the openbsd misc list a month or two back, it's worth looking > up to get an insight into just how bad the design really is.) > > "buy another card" isn't the most pleasant advice you can get, > but you may suffer less pain if you go that route. if you can perhaps > scrape up an old tulip based card (netgear fa310 (_not_ 311), dlink > dfx 500 (_not_ 530), smc etherpower, etc., those work well. > > some 3coms (905s before the C version) and intels (later etherexpress > PROs, not the first version) are quite good. the smc etherpower II > is ok except multicast is broken. some of the other smc cards i've > used have been decent too. > > hopefully some others can offer suggestions of chipsets that have > worked well for them. > > richard > -- > Richard Welty rwelty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 > Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.572 / Virus Database: 362 - Release Date: 1/27/04