On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:54:20 +0000 Paul Thomas <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 31/01/2004 17:08 Richard Welty wrote: > > MS SQL Server-> <some Open Source DB> is likely to be > > every bit as challenging, so it's pretty silly to propose it in > > this case. > If you search the PostgreSQL archives you'll find a good number of > successful migrations from MS SQL. The major work generally seems to be in > re-writing stored procedures. Not a drop-in replacement solution, I agree > but consider this: what if a company wants to migrate their desktops to > Linux but can't get the required connectivity to MS-SQL? Should they > meekly accept that they're locked into M$ for ever? Or should they > investigate ways of replacing MS-SQL (maybe even with another proprietry, > but multi-platform, DB)? Which would you advise? they need to look at the entirety of their application and consider what it is that they are doing that is causing the lock in, and then start taking an iterative approach to breaking the lock. there's no one true path, it depends on the situation. usually they've coded a lot in C# or VB making it hard to migrate (but if they've done that, they're SOL when it comes to non-MS desktops anyway.) if it's non-standard SQL in an otherwise portable langauge, then they probably need to look at whether they have properly implemented an M-V-C architecture that hides the SQL from the bulk of the app, so that the SQL is isolated and can be dealt with w/o massive disruption. at that point, you look at what non-standard features are in use, and figure out how to revise the architecture to facilitate migration. the main thing is that you may need to move the database first, before you can move the desktop. this all presumes that there is no answer involving JDBC or ODBC, which make desktop migration fairly straightforward and independent of database migration. you can do a forklift, and switch everything all at once, but it won't be seamless, it never is. people who want to do forklift conversions need to understand the implications, but often they're neck deep before they finally understand. richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security