On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 12:01:55AM +0000, Andy Wallace wrote: > > > However, on lists like this almost, > > no one is on a 300 baud or slower modem, > > > > It takes a long time to download a day's worth of messages on a 56k > modem on this list. Luckily I've just got broadband :-) There is a big difference between downloading a day's worth of messages and reading them on an X-term/gnome-terminal at an effective baud rate in excess of +38.4K and reading the messages on a free standing terminal connected at 300 baud. It turns out that emacs in a gnome-terminal can emulate 300 baud. stty speed 300 emacs -t `tty` Try to edit a largish text file or scroll through it. Try setting up a spare system and connect it via a serial line at 300 baud (telnet/kermit/gkermit). Then try serial line IP at various baud rates. The serial line IP (slip) trick should be used for debugging X applications. It is possible to see all the redundant redrawing and other band width and rendering abuses that libraries and applications generate. Broadband bandwidth is nice but I find that the "always on" part is more important to me than pure band width. I hate to give up my phone for hours on end but for 80% of what I need 56K is enough. -- T o m M i t c h e l l mitch48-at-sbcglobal-dot-net