On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 11:44:19AM -0600, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: [...] > RH had to do *something* if it was to survive as a company. Unfortunately, > while I have been very happy to support RH at work by purchasing RHEL, I > have not that option at home. I simply don't have the cash to purchase RHEL > for home use, even considering that it costs just as much as Winbloze. > > Fedora is very cool, and I'm testing it and writing HOWTO's for it now, but > I don't know if I can keep up with the upgrade schedule. Which leaves me > and a whole bunch of others between the rock and the hard place. If you think that upgrading between Fedora Core release looks too much of a burden, nothing prevents trying to build tools making that process smoother. I think there is a number of good ideas which are fine playing with on home boxes, but that you would not want to try on your database server at work. Things like live upgrade without reboots, or using User Mode Linux to test upgrade progressively while still running the previous system "just in case". Really there is a lot of neat ideas that enthusiasts could come up with (or resurect from other areas like Mainframes or Multics) for which Fedora would be a great testbed. One of Fedora goals is precisely to be a test field for innovative code, sysadmin and maintainance tasks are certainly a place which could be improved a lot, packages are a really great building block for this but more systematic and higher level services and tools can certainly be built on top. You can't keep up with perceived upgrade schedule, so there is an itch to scratch and in the tradition of OSS that's usually where you get new developments. Sysadmin and maintainance may look less glamourous than kernel hacking or building Apache, but it would probably reach very quick a very wide audience, if your need is better sysadmin tools, then the solution is not to change distros, it's to design and implement better tools :-) Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Network https://rhn.redhat.com/ veillard@xxxxxxxxxx | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/
