Doh! I should have tried "rpm -e" before mailing the list and I now know why. I installed the admin tools and system tools which installed redhat-printer-config. I had to remove the following packages in this order to get rid of cups. desktop-printing redhat-config-printer-gui redhat-config-printer cups As for the cups-libs it seems to be linked to a few apps I kinda like to hang on to so it will have to remain. rpm -e cups-libs error: Failed dependencies: libcups.so.2 is needed by (installed) samba-common-3.0.0-5rc1 libcups.so.2 is needed by (installed) ghostscript-7.07-10 libcups.so.2 is needed by (installed) libgnomeprint22-2.3.1-2 libcups.so.2 is needed by (installed) gnome-vfs2-extras-0.99.10-3.1 libcups.so.2 is needed by (installed) gnome-vfs-extras-0.2.0-7 libcups.so.2 is needed by (installed) printman-0.0.1-1.20021202.14 libcupsimage.so.2 is needed by (installed) ghostscript-7.07-10 [root@pc2-hem12-3-cust67 root]# I'd like to hang on to the ghostscript and samba client utilities. I was kinda surprised that cups-libs will be linked to samba-common and ghostscript. Correct me if I am wrong but it may be possible to "build and compile " ghostscript and samba with printing support turned off? If so that would mean been able to remove cups-libs and still have ghostscript and samba on the system. Well at least samba. Cheers M@ On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 21:11, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 08:14:40PM +0100, Matheesha wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am asking this as I've just seen that some are experiencing issues > > with disabling the firewall. While I was installing Fedora Test 2 I > > chose not to install printing support and yet cups is installed and > > is active. Both Cups and the Cups libraries are installed. I am a > > newbie to Linux so I am not sure if Cups was installed as it may be > > required for some other reason. > > If you installed Gnome, you get Cups. Gnome is dependent on > Cups. Perhaps the Gnome RPMs could be re-done to use Cups if it is > present but not require it? > > To determine the dependency chain, try uninstalling packages you don't > want, and follow the chain of complaints. E.g: > > rpm -e <package> > > > The same goes for Open Office. I chose not to install any > > Office/Productivity apps and yet Open Office libraries are > > installed. > > I believe that this is a bug, but I haven't filed it yet. I spotted it > in Beta 1, but am waiting to confirm it on Beta 2. > > There is no reason for the OOo libraries to be installed other than > for OOo itself. I can't guess why there are three separate packages, > unless it is to keep the package size down to an average of 35 MB > each. I find this one particularly egregious because they account for > some 230 MB installed, and my test machine has 1.6 GB of usable disk > space.