Hi all I have been using Synaptic for apt-get for some time now and it works very well. I have been able to install a lot of packages without any trouble at all. up2date is not too bad, but the number of packages offered is very limited. Yesterday, I realised that I could not subscribe to the Severn channel. Is this because I do not have paid subscription to RHN? It would be a better idea to just open the RHN to include a wide variety of packages, maybe indicating the status of development. Don't be so proprietary about this. Ximian's Red Carpet also looks nice and has some good packages. regards Andre Meyer