Havoc, Points noted.. However, what about those of us who purchase a few RHN subscriptions to support their RH linux? Obviously, I realize that you can't answer on this, but maybe you could push it along. The real issue for us (a cheap edu) was the cost differential between RHEL and RHL. I realize you might not care about our money each year, and I realize that (i believe this was stated) fedora upgrades will be carried via RHN. I have to ask myself if RH is still the linux we want to use. Tom On 22 Sep 2003, Havoc Pennington wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 13:12, Jos Vos wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 12:53:29PM -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > > > > This table attempts to summarize the difference between our operating > > > system products and the Fedora Project: > > > http://fedora.redhat.com/about/rhel.html > > > > > > Red Hat will be doing a lot of development and other work on the Fedora > > > Project, but it's not a product that you can buy from us. We're working > > > on the Fedora Project in the same way that we work on other projects > > > such as Mozilla or the Linux kernel. > > > > Well, I can't read this different from "Red Hat stops delivering a > > freely available Linux distribution", which I consider bad news :-(. > > "freely available" could be misleading, remember that our products are > still open source, the issue here is freeness of beer not speech. > > It is accurate that don't currently plan more commercial products for > free (beer) download in binary form. > > > Related to "freely available": it's not completely clear what the > > "Licensing: open source" and the "Downloads: source only, or ..." > > in the Red Hat Enterprise Linux column on the above referred page > > *exactly* means w.r.t. what people/companies outside Red Hat may > > or mayt not do with it. I guess I have to read the trademark-related > > pages at the Red Hat site for that? > > You have to read the RHEL agreement, I can't find the link right now but > various people have posted it in the past. Trademark guidelines apply > but probably aren't the primary issue in governing what you can do. > > My understanding is that you have the rights under the open source > licenses to use, modify, and distribute (we cannot and do not want to > remove these), but to get maintenance and support *from us* you have to > subscribe per-system. > > But of course I am not a lawyer or official spokesperson, you really > have to read the agreement and you may want to talk to the Red Hat > salespeople as they answer questions about this kind of thing all day. > > Havoc > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > -- _______________________________________________________________________ Tom Ryan Voice: 856-225-6361 Consulting System Administrator Fax: 856-969-7900 Rutgers School of Law - Camden
