"Considering the fact that every single package in rawhide is currently maintained by Red Hat employees, and we are diligently working every day to improve the Fedora Core release and fix as many bugs as possible, I'm not sure exactly how "Redhat just lost there ownership of the project" as you state above. While we have opened up the project to the community, the infrastructure is not yet in place to allow external developers to maintain or contribute packages, and so for all intents and purposes, Fedora Core 1, is very much a distribution developed by Red Hat not much differently than Red Hat Linux 9, or Red Hat Linux 8.0, 7.x, etc." Currently they are all maintained by Redhat but since they plan on turning it over to the public more, that will be a harder task to watch what all these guys are doing to every package that comes out. Considering the fact that they are not even willing to support it any more for even the 30 day installation shows their loss of ownership. They keep close ties on the project so they have all testing on the packages for their commercial line. I don't believe that it will be as stable as the OLD REDHAT because they will be letting so many people touch it and too many people be involved that it will be more likely to have bugs. When Redhat was in full control they knew every change that happened. With so many cooks in the kitchen you will never know everything that was changed always leaving some mess around. They want to develop and let users use it for only the benefit of adding fully tested products to their enterprise edition. If they really wanted to merge with a group to make stable and more advanced version of Linux that everyone could enjoy, why not merge with a group more similar to Debian. They have a good and stable release but are lacking on the ease of use that someone like Redhat has. This would be a better and more positive move forward for the Linux community. They already have tons of developers that are working together on a common goal. So far the project might be the same as Redhat 9 but the future is what I am referring to. Like I said before TOO many cooks in the kitchen will lead to a big mess.