Buck you're no way close to old. Coming up on 63. If people thing that they have problems with RHEL they should consider the little extra hoops I have to jump through. We have a purchasing system that excels in red tape. To order something of the web using a credit card is impossible unless you want to use your own and loan the state money. To purchase from one vendor it take a mountain of paper work. I needed ove twenty copies of ES. Wanted the basic edition but that required a download and payment by card. Finally had to order the standard version through an "approved reseller". I can't wait until next year when I try to figure out how to pay for the renewal :-) On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Buck wrote: > I definitely stand corrected on being the "old man" in the group. There > are certainly more of us than I expected. > > Thanks to all, > > Buck > -- David E. Tetreault davet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Manager of Technical Support 401-874-4472 OIS/TOPS, Tyler Hall University of Rhode Island Kingston RI 02881