When I talked to a Red Hat representative on the telephone, Red Hat has adopted a policy that states that the name "Red Hat" will be associated with reliability and support. I don't believe there will be an unsupported Red Hat again. Speaking on my own as I see it: Red Hat wants whomever hears their name to think "Quality, reliability, availability, 'I want it!'". Red Hat is aware that there a lot of confusion has arisen because of the names "Red Hat Linux" and "Red Hat Enterprise Linux" and they only want the image of RHEL. The only way to get that is to divorce from "Red Hat Linux" and terminate its name. Until the last few weeks when I became active on this list, there was only "Red Hat Linux" the big umbrella that meant all of their products collectively and severally. That creates a lot of confusion, and confusion costs customers. Buck -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan J. Smith Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:57 AM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx; Paul Gear Subject: Re: Fedora and the System Administrator -- "have" -> "had" Quoting Paul Gear <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > And that's the whole problem, isn't it? :-) Some of us need more > than "enthusiast", but less than "enterprise"... I really don't > understand why Red Hat couldn't just dump the "boxed set, store shelf" > part of the "consumer" distro and still do everything as before. That > would cut back most of the costs associated with the retail channel, > yet allow us to keep using a reasonably well-supported OS. I think that's what they may be doing. But they can't just come right out and say that. It's all about support. What they ship, they have to support (even if it's not a law, nor followed by many Linux distributors, but a Red Hat distro motto ;-) In every case I have played "wait and see" with Red Hat, I have _always_ been pleasantly surprised. I hope Fedora does as well. It's in Red Hat's own interest to do so. I see Bob Young speak on business, not much different than Bill Gates, but unlike Bill Gates, he doesn't screw his own developers. I then see Red Hat's developers and technologists implement a 100% community-focused feature and package set. I'm biased, but I really like Red Hat for the balancing act they are able to come off with. > Surely producing a CD-ROM distribution available by subscription only > and charging a low-to-medium amount of money for RHN basic wouldn't be > that much of a money sink... I think we'll see a lot of "repositories" crop up. I chaulk this all up to internal Red Hat developers and technologies proving to the management that the community can better support distribution than RHN. > A: Because we read from top to bottom, left to right. > Q: Why should i start my reply below the quoted text? I love it when someone new to a LUG (obviously using Outlook) complained about my ettique of bottom posting and cutting out irrelevant quotes in my response. -- Bryan J. Smith, E.I. mailto:b.j.smith@xxxxxxxx http://thebs.org ------------------------------------------------------------------ There is no greater ignorance than the popular American environ- mental movement, which focuses on the most useless details. Be it recycling the world's most renewable resource or refusal to use proven CFC insulation on launch vehicles, no lives will be spared in the further pursuit of, ironically, harming the environment. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list