> Subject: re: raise window on-click > From: Ben Steeves <bcs@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:55:59 -0400 > Reply-To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 21:31, Ryan Daly wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 20:15, Ben Steeves wrote: > > > On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 21:09, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > > I can't find out how to make a mouse click (other than on the title bar) > > > > raise the window. It "used to" happen in Shrike, but I can't remember > > > > if I did something in particular for that behaviour. My "window > > > > preferences" are simply 'select on mouse-over'. Is it still possible? > > > > This was an issue some time ago. See, default Unix window manager > > behavior usually dictates that a click in the window itself does *not* > > raise the window. However, this was the default behavior in Gnome for > > quite some time, until numerous people started complaining and filed a > > bug report to get the action changed to the way it should be. > > > > To get the action of clicking in a window to raise it, one should use > > click-to-focus, not focus-follows-mouse. Focus-follows-mouse mode now > > only raises the window when clicking the border. > > Argh, what a terrible change from a usability point of view. I know > this is common in old X window managers (is there really such thing as a > "default" UNIX window manager? :-), but just 'cos that's the way it was > always done doesn't make it right. > > At the very least it should be an option. Click-to-focus isn't the same > behaviour because the click that focuses also raises. I *hate* that. I > want to have the rear window have focus without coming to the front, and > without fancy combinations of clicking and alt-tabbing around. I hate it too. I tend to like the Gnome apps, but the window manager seems to be getting more windows-like and less useful each iteration. After 2 or more years of Gnome, I ended up switching to xfce to get better performance. And I found that the windows are finally 'sane' again. I thought after 2 years I had trained myself away from opening a small xterm in the middle of a big emacs window, and cut-and-pasting from xterm to emacs. But I hadn't gone more than a couple of hours before I did exactly that and realize just how sorely I had missed this behavior. -- Karl DeBisschop <kdebisschop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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