Re: [Fwd: Re: apt-get, rpm y yum]

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On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 19:59, Daniel Veillard wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 08:47:36PM +0300, Artem B. Bityuckiy wrote:
> > I often heard word "smart" about up2date. The example from reality: In 
> > RH9 up2date downloaded new packages and offer KDE user to update system. 
> > User answers - yes. After update system can't work and can't boot. I 
> > don't know exactly what happened, but up2date tried to update glibc and 
> > hanged on this - and this is normal because libc is used everywhere. Why 
> > up2date is "smart" if it is so stupid to update glibc while KDE and a 
> > lot of other applications are running?
> 
>   Live update of glibc are possible and work even if the library
> is in use. Qualifying the program as "stupid" because it failed
> in your specific case just show you don't understand what going on.
> I think millions of glibc live update have been done via RPM
> be it though up2date or others update mechanism. If the RPM transaction
> fails, that's bad, that probably not directly related to rpm itself
> or the fact that it was a glibc update. But since there is aboslutely
> no informations in your report which may help explain or reproduce the
> problem, I think no further work can be done about your problem.

To me the "tried to update glibc and hanged on this" sounds like a
locked/hung rpm database, especially since we're talking about RHL9
whose original rpm version is a bit touchy to ctrl-c. Sure enough if one
reboots the system in a middle of unfinished operation, especially when
updating such a core compotent as glibc .. well, no wonder it got
trashed.

	- Panu -




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