On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 07:41, Mike Klinke wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2003 20:04, Bret Hughes wrote: > > I sent a message earlier on this topic but for some reason it did not > > make it to the list. > > > > Bret, > > If I remember the right message, it did make it to the list and someone > suggested "up2date --show-orphans" as a possible source of information. > > Regards, Mike Klinke > Thanks Mike I saw it. It was a timing issue with redhat's mailman sending all the spooled mails after having problems yesterday. I sent the first one asking for help about 10:30AM dinked around abit and wrote the program and did some prelim testing and then posted the link to the program in this thread about 2:00PM. still nothing by 6:30 and saw other messages coming in so assumed ( incorrectly that mails were lost. Then I did the boneheaded post AGAIN. I think the 6:30 mail got here first and then the others in a significantly delayed fashion, not sure of the order. In short, my impatience has caused the confusion and I apologize. I intend to try and determine what exactly --showorphans will catch once I get up2date working. I do not think I have even run it yet although I did do an apt-get install up2date :) I still think I will continue to enhance my script since I like the idea of being able to get a handle on the system without being connected to a network. If I think a box is compromised the first thing I do is unplug the network cable and at that point unless I am missing something, up2date is of little use. For some reason, I have never really trusted up2date. I cannot explain my discomfort except that it may be due to ignorance. I disliked needing to connect to redhat every time I updated a machine and since I have local mirrors on every site that has more that 5 or ten machines apt seemed to fit the bill. I control what gets added to the local repo and thus updated on all the machines after testing in the lab. With Fedora, The scenario changes quite a bit. I am playing with a test box now to see if the latest and greatest is worth the possibility of upgrades and looking to determine how best to perform upgrades if I decide to. I am typically not an early adopter but there have been so many changes I thought I should do some research and see what the hoopla is about :) Bret