Thanks Andy! All sorts of interesting things happen: (Relevant to the recent X/Autodetect thread) I have been experimenting with a second monitor, not a projector. But it feels very similar to me...) 1) radeon->vesa driver for my radeon card This drops glxgears from 600->175, and dri support goes. mplayer knows xv will not work, so picks x11. Which means I do get a display, without having to think, even if it is not a nice one. However, the alt-F8 works as it did on RH-9. It seemed to be disabled before. So I can choose laptop, projector or both. 2) apm on/off does nothing for me. 3) apci off/on does nothing for me. 4) Start X WITHOUT the external display, and then plugging it in, fixes the problem. So it seems that it recognises the second screen and tries to do something clever in consequence. So I can summarise: A) Start X with projector connected Screen position correct, no clipping, but 680x480 only. xv output only displayed on laptop. In XFree86.0.log I notice: (**) RADEON(0): *Mode "1400x1050" (**) RADEON(0): *Mode "1280x1024" (**) RADEON(0): *Mode "1280x960" (**) RADEON(0): *Mode "1152x864" (**) RADEON(0): *Mode "1024x768" (**) RADEON(0): *Mode "800x600" (**) RADEON(0): *Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480" 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (**) RADEON(0): Default mode "320x240": 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) (II) RADEON(0): Modeline "320x240" 12.60 320 328 376 400 240 245 246 262 doublescan -hsync -vsync B) Start X without, then plug-in xv works nicely screen display slightly misplaced 1400x1050 seems to work on this monitor. Does that suggest anything about the source? Bill On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 12:09, Andy Green wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 12 November 2003 10:37, William John Murray wrote: > > > (I know the mouse is wrong for my internal laptopn mouse, but that > > has gone 'bad' so is disabled) > > Hm, wonder if its as disabled as you think it is... maybe its spamming > interrupts somewhere and causing trouble that way. What kind of bad did it > go? > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "ATI Radeon Mobility M6" > > Driver "radeon" > > I would # out the Driver "radeon" line and try it with Driver "vesa" just to > see if that made any difference. > > I would also fiddle with kernel params added in /boot/grub/grub.conf to kill > acpi, eg, acpi=off > > Alan Cox had these wise words to share with us earlier today: > > o System boots to graphical desktop but the desktop appears > and then the machine crashes > > Boot with "apm=off" and see if this helps. A few laptops > have buggy battery query support. > > - -Andy > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE/s3SLjKeDCxMJCTIRAgJFAJ430qJNaemVD3T8E6X7nJxKVLst+ACgljrm > Ej/z/hrm0yimDoahVYnRD7w= > =YH1q > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- William John Murray <w.murray@xxxxxxxx> CCLRC