<snip> I did have a go at a LFS (Linux From Scratch), but God knows what kind of build environment you need for that thing. On four different distos (with three different gcc's/binutils/fileutils) I couldn't make (literally) it even half way through. So Fedora it is then. </snip> You might want to try Gentoo (www.gentoo.org). I built a Linux From Scratch, and it seemed to work OK, but I'd have spent all my time updating and patching. Gentoo works well for me....... Cheers, Karl -----Original Message----- From: Keith G. Robertson-Turner [mailto:redhat-forums@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 1:12 PM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Fedora is good, but ... ... but nothing. It rocks! I had some initial teething problems, such as: Firstboot and that python XFree configurator script didn't allow me to manually specify my VGA card's memory (unlike RH9), so I ended up with a very small desktop. No setting for this in rh-conf-xf86 either. Easy fix though, by editing XF86Config. NVidia/MESA/PAM conflicts. Once again, I've fixed this on Linux boxes so often now, I can do it in my sleep. There *has* to be a long term solution to this mess. My own impatience at not having an easy RPM for Mozilla 1.6a :) Well I eventually found a 1.5 RPM and I just pulled 1.6a out of CVS for testing. Weird rhn applet problems. So for now it seems up2date can't redirect to the fedora urls, and there's still that legacy rhn authentication stuff going on that prompts you to register. Easy fix for the former, but the latter requires too much messing about with python for me to bother. Fix yer scripts guys. Well I've been on RH systems forever, so I got a bit of a shock when the final "goodbye" message came through from Red Hat. I (very briefly) considered moving to another distro, but after trying recent releases of Suse, Debian and Mandrake, I was firmly reminded of why I have never done so before ... yeeeuk! The only one that doesn't make me feel like I've travelled back to the stone age in a time machine, is Suse. Suse is pretty good, I suppose, but it's so ... so ... *green*. :) Anyway, there's that whole Novell (we will assimilate) thing and I just felt a bit nervous about it. I did have a go at a LFS (Linux From Scratch), but God knows what kind of build environment you need for that thing. On four different distos (with three different gcc's/binutils/fileutils) I couldn't make (literally) it even half way through. So Fedora it is then. The way forward, and ... stuff. It's fast, efficient and stable (I love NPTL), in fact much more so than RH9, which surprises me considering this is fairly bleeding edge (It's even got OOo1.1 and Gnome 2.4 - not even Suse 9 has both of those out of the box). So yup, I love it, but if there was one feature I'd ask for, it's this: It doesn't make my coffee. I feel this is an essential feature, and that you should all be killed by the "Free Software Foundation Death Squad" for omitting it. Shame on you :) [H]omer ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________