On Monday 10 November 2003 22:58, Res wrote: > Using the onboard video from an MX45U2 with a SiS650 chipset > on Fedora, the GUI shudders badly, RH 7/9 did not have this issue, > has anyone else come accross this and solved it? Andy Green wrote: > Lastly, could it be that with the refresh rate that has been selected, the > video card is exceeding the bandwidth of your monit-KABOOM!!! That is pretty close. As I wrote for a previous posting today, the faster you sweep, the more voltage you need. The voltage is probably set by an amplifier working off an unregulated supply, with 2x mains frequency ripple on the supply. If you ask for too much voltage, the amplifier pegs against the ripple, and the screen wobbles horizontally or vertically (depending on which amplifier pegs first). And before teh amplifier pegs, it will tend to get "soft", and so the edges of the display will feather a bit from gain variation caused by lack of enough voltage. Check the bandwidth of your monitor; there are probably specifications on websites somewhere. You are looking for maximum vertical and horizontal scan rate; make sure those numbers are in the monitor description for XFree86, probably in /etc/X11/XF86Config. For example, my Hitachi SuperScan Elite 751 monitor has a section reading: Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor 0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "htcac13" HorizSync 31.0 - 94.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 Option "dpms" EndSection This says that the monitor will work with horizontal frequencies from 31.0 to 94.0 kHz, and vertical frequencies from 50 to 160 Hz. If your monitor still looks funny with the proper numbers in there, you probably want to reduce the top-end numbers until it stops looking funny. There may be a flaw in the tables that the X configuration script is working from, or there may be a flaw in your monitor, or the manufacturer of your monitor is lying about its capabilities. Sometimes there is not enough time for retrace, which happens when you ask for too many pixels. You might try temporarily going to a lower resolution and see what happens. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom keithl@xxxxxxxx Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs