-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ghod Sent: 19 December 2003 18:42 To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Newbie: How to upgrade from Red Hat 9 to Fedora from hard disk I've just seen too many LI.................. you guys steer the newbs to HD install.. and when it fails YOU help them recover!!! of course the .iso image will be on the unaccessable DRIVE.. with the failed install Hope you never have a power outage during an install.. or a burp.. or heaven knows what. I can recover from this. .and have done just about every type of install know to man.. to include back in the .99 days.. of having to compile the kernel PRIOR to installing it cause scsi.h couldn't handle both my controlers and would switch the boot order after install, which WOULD cause the system to hang since the devices now were labeled incorrectly Since you have NEVER had a problem, means nobody will EVER have a problem, is STUPID logic at best! since you have never had a HD fail.. they never do? come on.. I was offering REAL advice for a NEWBIE.. make a CD copy of the ISO so you have a BACKUP media in case of problems. I wouldn't do plain HD install nor recommend it to a newbie. that is my point, if you want to run them down the short-cut path.. so be it. I'm NOT wrong.. opinions are just that if you agree with william so be it, that does NOT make my opinion wrong! it just means you like short-cuts for newbs too. and installing Linux on a machine without CD-ROM or Floppy.. now THAT must have been a real jewel.. hope it never crashes.. since you would never be able to install ANYTHING back on it. Andy Green wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 19 December 2003 12:44, Ghod wrote: well if your upgrading and the install fails you might not be able to BOOT.. but the CD will always be bootable William Hooper wrote: Ghod said: and what happens should the install fail? What happens if the install falls when using CDs? Why would installing >from the HD be any different? I have done CD installs, HDD installs and FTP installs, if you are upgrading in place its much of a muchness (assuming you have a stable Internet connection). The safest method of all is to install the OS to a new HDD, then bring over your data from the old HDD afterwards. Its often the case that you ran out of space anyway and need a bigger HDD. In this case you can at all times return to your pre-install state just with a HDD swap. If you are upgrading to the same HDD then even if the install is a disaster, you can still install fresh to a new HDD, mount the old guy and recover the data... its hard to imagine that the install would destroy the filesystem, unless you are dumb enough to nuke it with fdisk during the install action. I have upgraded RH9 -> Fedora in situ several times and not had a problem, but the new HDD method is guaranteed not to kill your data if you consider it critical. Installing from HDD is actually less error-prone than from burnt CDs, since there is no possibility of burn/read errors, which are a very real factor. William has sent out a lot of helpful advice on the list, it doesn't sound like a good idea to complain at him (especially when he was right). Better to admire superior advice than deny it, even if it stings for a minute or two. -------------------------------- What if the iso's were on hd0 and the install was being done on hd1 Drives not partitions. Would that be safe? I have been a CD person so far. That said I have 2 other machines on a network so Guess I could try a network install. Does that mean I'm not a newbie anymore ;-) Regards roger
