On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 08:21, Mike Evans wrote: > Ok, that makes sense, but (and I could be wrong) doesn't that happen > automatically with other distributions (I just came from SuSE 9)? You are no incorrect. SuSE (and many other distributions) treat su root and su - the same. I think Fedora's behavior is correct, though, when you think about it. It forces the user to use su - which is safer. Preston