Russell King wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:08:32AM -0500, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
..
This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_,
it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for
years, in favor of the all-too-easy "open source means many eyeballs and
that is our QA" answer, which is a _good_ answer but by far not the most
intelligent answer! Today "many eyeballs" is simply not good enough and
nature (and other OS projects) will route us around if we dont change.
..
QA-101 and "many eyeballs" are not at all in opposition.
The latter is how we find out about bugs on uncommon hardware,
and the former is what we need to track them and overall quality.
A HUGE problem I have with current "efforts", is that once someone
reports a bug, the onus seems to be 99% on the *reporter* to find
the exact line of code or commit. Ghad what a repressive method.
99% on the reporter? Is that why I always try to understand the
reporters problem (*provided* it's in an area I know about) and come
up with a patch to test a theory or fix the issue?
..
Same here.
I just find it weird that something can be known broken for several -rc*
kernels before I happen to install it, discover it's broken on my own machine,
and then I track it down, fix it, and submit the patch, generally all within a
couple of hours. Where the heck was the dude(ess) that broke it ?? AWOL.
And when I receive hostility from the "maintainers" of said code for fixing
their bugs, well.. that really motivates me to continue reporting new ones..
I'm _less_ inclined to provide such a "service" for lazy maintainers
who've moved off into new and wonderfully exciting technologies, to
churn out more patches for me to merge (and eventually provide a free
to them bug fixing service for.)
That's "less" inclined, not "won't".
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