Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 08.09.2007 01:38, Takashi Iwai wrote:
[backports to -stable]
>> Linux will suck really if one breaks so-called stable thing easily
>> without actually testing. For stable stuff, "it should be good" isn't
>> enough. It must be: "it IS good."
This applies (or should apply...) to everything that goes to Linus in
his pre -rc1 merge windows. To post -rc1 submissions and even more so
to -stable submissions, additional criteria apply.
However, there are special kernel trees out there which accept
backports. Linux distributors do backports, because they have the means
to do so.
> Linux IMHO will suck even more if crucial pieces of hardware does not
> work for people easily, because Linux won't get even used then and will
> frustrate people.
>
> Don't get me wrong; I understand and agree mostly to the points you
> raised. But we nevertheless need to find a way to make todays hardware
> usable more quickly, as that hardware is often on the market only for
> some months or a year until the successor-model replaces it (which might
> need new drivers or workarounds) --
In the end there is but one solution to this: Open specs.
> but it sometimes even for small
> alsa-fixes takes as many months to make it from the developers out to
> the kernel and from there to the distributions the user uses.
>
> It works better in some areas of the kernels (SATA and Network drivers
> come to my mind) where patches make it quicker into the linus- and
> stable-kernels -- in parts that is due to better cooperation with the
> hardware-vendors, but it seems the sub-tree maintainers have a better
> patch-/workflow, which has a strong impact as well.
Feature additions to SATA and networking, e.g. support of additional
hardware, are not backported to -stable or merged post -rc1 either, I
presume. Maybe they are better in getting stuff ready in time before
merge windows open --- I don't know, I don't watch these subsystems.
Maybe they have less trouble with closed or nonexisting specs...?
--
Stefan Richter
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