On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 10:44:28PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 10:39:23AM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
>
> > It makes sense to raise it beyond 128K. 1M default readahead
> > absolutely makes sense for sequential workloads. For the desktop,
> > this increases boot speed and readahead misses, both due to more
> > aggressive mmap read-around. Most users will be glad to feel the
> > speedup, and happily ignore the readahead misses, which may be
> > "invisible" in case of large memory.
> >
> > In theory, the distributions can do the same tuning. So we have an
> > interesting question for Dave:
> > Does fedora desktop raise the default readahead size? Why or
> > why not? It goes so far to do userland readahead ;)
>
> Fedora takes whatever defaults for readahead the kernel.org kernel has.
> The only reasoning being if anyone reported VM bugs, we'd be able
> to say to interested upstream developers "we're running the stock VM".
> without having to get the user to try and reproduce on unpatched
> kernels.
Thank you. Now I'm more confident that the kernel should have a
reasonable default readahead size. The current one is 5+ years old and
should be updated now.
> > - drop behind
> >
> > Sorry, I still doubt it will benefit all/most workloads. Leave it off
> > by default, and leave the enabling decision to Dave? I do hope that
> > it help general desktops.
>
> It's not a subject that I'm intimatly familiar with, and when it
> comes to decisions like this, I tend to just take whatever the
> upstream defaults are.
- It will avoid large-file-reads-thrashing-my-desktop problem,
so most desktop users should like it. But sure there will be counter
cases when a user want to keep the data cached.
- File servers may hurt from it. Imagine a mp3/png file server. The
files are large enough to trigger drop-behind, but small (and hot)
enough to be cached. Also when a new fedora DVD iso is released, it
may be cached for some days. These are only the obvious cases.
So I opt for it being made tunable, safe, and turned off by default.
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