On 6/23/07, Satyam Sharma <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Jan,
On 6/22/07, Jan Engelhardt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Jun 22 2007 18:24, Roman Zippel wrote:
> >
> >> There have been discussions to remove the default-ys again, I've sent a patch
> >> [http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/5/12/216], but nothing happened.
> >>
> >> So, should all affected menuconfigs be transformed into tristates, what
> >> do you think, Roman? Let me know so I can cook up a patch (hopefully
> >> before 2.6.22) should they become tristate.
> >
> >Using bool is clearly a bug and I'd prefer if it removed the defaults as
> >well.
>
> What I don't quite understand is, that CONFIG_CRYPTO is also a bool,
> its subparts are tristates however, and there is no problem involved
> with these.
That's because neither CONFIG_CRYPTO nor any of the crypto modules
depend on another symbol that is itself tristate (and hence can be modular),
which is the case with all the problematic cases that have been posted to
lkml lately.
To elaborate, the problem is:
menuconfig FOO
bool "FOO support drivers"
depends on BAR
if FOO
config BAZ
tristate "BAZ driver"
endif # FOO
Where:
config BAR
tristate "BAR subsystem"
The problem occurs when:
BAR=m
FOO=y (user selects FOO to show menu to be able to then select BAZ)
BAZ=y
BAZ would be built-in, BAR modular => build breakage. Note that it is
*BAZ* that depends on BAR. BAZ is *code* in the kernel sources, and
depends on BAR because it calls *code* exported by BAR (obviously).
[ We've marked _FOO_ as "depends on BAR" too, however, but that
is only because all the related drivers that this menu shows / hides
have the common property that they depend on BAR and hence there's
no point in showing this menu option to the user unless he has picked
BAR already.]
The root cause of the problem, as Randy Dunlap pointed out yesterday,
is a boolean coming in between the dependency chain of 2 tristates:
BAZ (tristate) depends on FOO (bool) depends on BAR (tristate).
BAR=m _does_ allow its dependency FOO to be "y", which then
allows BAZ (marked as dependency of only FOO but not BAR too,
sadly) to be "y".
Solution 1:
Make all FOO-like configmenu's trisate.
=> if BAR=m => FOO can only be m too => BAZ can only be m too.
But making a menuconfig symbol tristate is ugly, IMHO. These new
primitives are just on/off switches to show / hide a further menu that
contains related drivers / options, after all. They are bool's by meaning,
and need to defined / used as such too. [my opinion, fwiw]
Solution 2:
Explicitly honour the dependency of BAZ on BAR.
2.(a) do this either explicitly by adding "depends on" in kconfig itself:
config BAZ
tristate "BAZ driver"
depends on BAR
=> do this for all the config symbols inside any if FOO / endif block
where FOO depends on some other tristate symbol itself. But this
sounds (and feels like being) redundant.
2.(b) or else, make the config scripts "intelligent" so that if:
"menuconfig FOO depends on BAR", then:
All the "config BAZ"s inside this menuconfig (inside the if FOO /
endif block) also automatically "depend on" BAR too.
I would vote for solution 2.(b), personally, but solution 1 is easiest.
Satyam
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