Am Donnerstag, 24. Mai 2007 22:06 schrieben Sie:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 21:56:16 +0200
>
> "Uwe Bugla" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
>
> (added linux-wireless, others)
>
> > The patch against b44.c contained in 2.6.22-rc2-mm1 has two consequences:
> >
> > 1. a tight binding to module ssb whose function or necessity I neither
> > see through nor do comprehend
> >
> > 2. a breakdown (disfunctionality) of my onboard NIC.
> >
> > lspci -v looks like this:
> >
> > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM
> > Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
> > Unknown device 80b2
> > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
> > Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
> > Capabilities: [e4] Vendor Specific Information
> > Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0
> >
> > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE
> > Host-to-AGP Bridge (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus
> > master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 64
> > Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
> > I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff
> > Memory behind bridge: f2000000-f27fffff
> > Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f3f00000-f7ffffff
> >
> > 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
> > (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> > Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8089
> > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
> > I/O ports at b800 [size=32]
> >
> > 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
> > (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> > Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8089
> > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20
> > I/O ports at b400 [size=32]
> >
> > 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
> > (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
> > Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8089
> > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
> > I/O ports at b000 [size=32]
> >
> > 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2
> > EHCI Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer
> > Inc. Unknown device 8089
> > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
> > Memory at f1800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
> > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
> > Capabilities: [58] Debug port
> >
> > 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82) (prog-if
> > 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
> > Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=32
> > Memory behind bridge: f1000000-f17fffff
> > Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f2800000-f3efffff
> >
> > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC
> > Interface Bridge (rev 02) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
> >
> > 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller
> > (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
> > Unknown device 8089
> > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
> > I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
> > I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
> > I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
> > I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
> > I/O ports at f000 [size=16]
> > Memory at 30000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
> >
> > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M)
> > SMBus Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device
> > 8089
> > Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 19
> > I/O ports at e800 [size=32]
> >
> > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM
> > (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: ASUSTeK
> > Computer Inc. Unknown device 80b0
> > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
> > I/O ports at a800 [size=256]
> > I/O ports at a400 [size=64]
> > Memory at f0800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
> > Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
> > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
> >
> > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO
> > AGP 4x TMDS (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Fury
> > Pro/Xpert 2000 Pro
> > Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 17
> > Memory at f4000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
> > I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
> > Memory at f2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
> > Expansion ROM at f3fe0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
> > Capabilities: [50] AGP version 2.0
> > Capabilities: [5c] Power Management version 2
> >
> > 02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev
> > 01) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V8X motherboard
> > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 255
> > Memory at f1000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8K]
> > Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
> >
> > 02:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video
> > Capture (rev 11) Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV Sat (DBC receiver)
> > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18
> > Memory at f3000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
> > Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
> > Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
> >
> > 02:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture
> > (rev 11) Subsystem: Pinnacle Systems Inc. PCTV Sat (DBC receiver)
> > Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18
> > Memory at f2800000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
> > Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
> > Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2
> >
> > Please note:
> >
> > 1. IRQ 255 looks very idiotic, doesn't it? It does not exist at all, does
> > it?
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> > 1. What is the technical need / progress of module ssb please?
> >
> > 2. If Andrew Morton's guidelines clearly say: "Do test your patches on
> > three different machines" and this guideline seems to be strictly ignored
> > by some sparetime hackers:
> >
> > What is the master plan then to avoid the fact that such a crap is being
> > sent in to Andrew?
> >
> > Yours sincerely
> >
> > Uwe
> >
> > P. S.: There is an important saying going like this:
> >
> > Too many cooks do mess up the pap.
> >
> > Regarding the patch in mm-tree I can see SIX (!) Copyright owners.
> > The last one of them (i. e. the one of 2007) obviuosly does not seem to
> > understand what he is doing (see that nonsense interrupt please, just
> > incredible!) :(
> >
> > In so far I would deeply appreciate Andrew Morton to throw that b44.c
> > patch into the trashbox as soon as possible :)
>
> The code presumably worked for the developer. The reason for merging it
> into -mm is to allow others to identify problems such as these before the
> code hits mainline.
I am inclined to agree. But the obvious absence of knowledge about the PCI
interrupt table or perhaps the ACPI issue is really harsh, isn't it? (IRQ
255!!)
Above that, the commiter DID IGNORE your baselines of testing, but at the same
time got highly profile-neurotic regarding the copyright issue of 2007,
didn't he (Let's call this a basic instinct of our precedents: the apes:
shouting: I, I, I, more, more, more)?
>
> Having bugs in -mm is normal, natural and expected. What I _do_ very much
> prefer to see is that these bugs get fixed promptly and, critically, that
> the code doesn't go into Linus's tree until all the known bugs are
> repaired.
I do agree and I do confirm to that, as it makes deep sense.
>
> Also, it's really bad when a bug makes the entire -mm release unusable for
> testers. Because this means that all the _other_ people who have code
> being tested in -mm just lost a tester. And it can cause people to just
> not bother testing -mm kernels at all, which means that more badness will
> get into mainline.
You do response positive, and I thank you for that. Well done, Andrew! :)
But, apart from that, I am still hosting (or forking, if you may wish) a
couple of patches for the v4l-dvb area that do touch about seven files,
trying to make at least my system more effective (small is beautiful, isn't
it?).
Now, one of them will be part of the next mm-tree, while the future of all the
other ones is more than unclear or invisible.
And I have not been hosting those since yesterday but in fact I have been
hosting them for weeks and for months now.
And this situation is nothing but the product of some personal issues with
exactly FOUR (!) v4l-dvb-developers involved, who, due to their borders of
knowledge which they cannot and will not deal with in a constructive open
positive manner, seem to have lost every kind of touch to mother earth (I do
avoid to use the expression "responsibility", as it has been proven to be
senseless to tell them in the past).
In other words: The ego ellbow issues do rule and thus do block every kind of
constructive evolution that everyone would deeply appreciate.
More clear: You see at linuxtv.org a repository of 20 (!) developers, but
they neither do nor intend to be a functionable team :(
And one of them tries to solve that by playing the "big boss" without having
absolutely no idea about DVB issues at all.
PLUS: Nowhere in the worldwide linux community outside the v4l-dvb microcosmos
the situation is such disagreeable and ellbow-ego-issued (if not to say:
disgusting and counterproductive and simply discouraging) as at linuxtv.org!
Now, even if you offered me to post the other patches for testing reasons to
be implied into the mm-tree I can foresee the NACK of Manu Abraham or Mauro
Chehab, without expalining the what and why!
That does not mean that we should not try one more time to at least get them
into the mm-tree (which I would regard as positive attempt, definitely!), but
that only means that I am, proven by experience, more than hopeless, if not
to say: pessimistic! :(
And that's it definitely what they seem to want:
Keep on doing their ellbow-egoistic policy, without any criticism or critical
objections!
Andrew, would you call that situation acceptable or agreeable?
My answer you can easily guess!
I do detest people adding their copyrights into code of whatever kind, but, at
the same time, producing absolutely nothing but broken crap!
Those people are not, and will never be, a positive impact for the whole
worldwide linux community.
Basta!
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