On Friday 13 April 2007 14:07, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > ... The primary issue is the concurrent access
> > > to resources, which cause lots of trouble which are hard to investigate.
> > > If ACPI reserves the ports, then the SMBus or hardware monitoring
> > > drivers (or any other conflicting driver) will cleanly fail to load,
> > > which would be a move in the right direction. ...
> > >
> > > So, can ACPI actually reserve the ports it accesses?
> >
> > Sorry to join this discussion so late.
> >
> > ACPI tells us the resources used by devices. Today, we don't
> > reserve
>
> Problem seems to be that ACPI does _not_ tell us which ports it
> accesses from AML code.
I think that would violate at least the spirit of the ACPI spec.
The example in section 11.6 of the ACPI 3.0 spec shows a _TMP
method that runs an EC method to read the temp, and the EC ioport
usage is correctly declared in the EC device's _CRS method.
Of course, there are always BIOS defects. But if we could make a
case that a BIOS that doesn't declare the resources used by the AML
is defective, we could add quirks to reserve the undeclared resources.
Chuck's last update (http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/2/20/136) says his
problem turned out to be unrelated to k8temp and may have gone away
after a BIOS update.
> But we already found a lock we can take; AFAICT we know how to solve
> this problem.
This might solve it, but doesn't seem like a clean way to do it.
I don't like the idea of sharing a lock between drivers and ACPI.
k8temp happens to be x86-dependent, so we'll always have ACPI, but
in principle, we could have the same problem with an arch-independent
PCI driver that only has ACPI on x86 and ia64 platforms.
(BTW, if Chuck's problem was solved by the BIOS update, I assume
there *is* another instance of the problem that we're trying to
solve with this lock.)
Bjorn
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