On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 15:55 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, David Woodhouse wrote:
> >
> > Really, if our config is set up in sensible submenus (as in general it
> > _is_), the "see everything" behaviour really isn't bad.
>
> There are two fundamental problems with that statement:
>
> - no, it really isn't always
>
> Quite often, our Kconfig files have dependencies that are about where
> the *code* exists, rather than about some nice hierarchical system.
>
> Think of it this way: would you use a programming language that didn't
> allow you anything but totally hierarcical language constructs? No sane
> person would - because real life isn't hierarchical. Yes, there are
> many things that are, but not all things are.
>
> Example: many cryptographic algorithms are in crypto/. But then a lot
> of them ARE NOT. They are in arch/so-and-so/crypto/ or similar. Notice?
>
> NOT HIERARCHICAL.
It isn't that far off, and we could improve it if we wanted to. In
_general_ it's quite good already.
> - I don't use menus at all. I use the good old textual "make oldconfig".
> Trust me, I _want_ those irrelevant questions gone. They aren't "grayed
> out".
>
> So you seem to have this *wish* that real life was different than it is.
> But we aren't hierarchical, and even if we were, it *still* wouldn't work
> the way you want things to work.
It would work quite nicely in the graphical tools, although you've
thrown me a little by wanting it in the hacker's tool 'oldconfig' too.
You obviously care more about turning stuff _on_ with 'make oldconfig'
while other people who've spoken up seem to care more, as I do, about
turning stuff _off_ that way. If I want my hand held, I'm happy enough
to use the graphical tools.
I think the answer is probably just to go ahead and implement the 'make
oldconfig_noselect' so we can all have what we want.
--
dwmw2
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