On Thursday 11 January 2007 16:50, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:
> >
> > Speaking of which, why did we obsolete raw devices? And/or why not just
> > go with a minimal O_DIRECT on block device support? Not a rhetorical
> > question -- I wasn't involved in the discussions when they happened, so
> > I would be interested.
>
> Lots of people want to put their databases in a file. Partitions really
> weren't nearly flexible enough. So the whole raw device or O_DIRECT just
> to the block device thing isn't really helping any.
>
> > O_DIRECT is still crazily racy versus pagecache operations.
>
> Yes. O_DIRECT is really fundamentally broken. There's just no way to fix
> it sanely. Except by teaching people not to use it, and making the normal
> paths fast enough (and that _includes_ doing things like dropping caches
> more aggressively, but it probably would include more work on the device
> queue merging stuff etc etc).
What will happen if we just make open ignore O_DIRECT? ;)
And then anyone who feels sad about is advised to do it
like described here:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2002/5/11/58
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