On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 04:34:17PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> 5 seconds is unfair and unrealistic though. The *hardware* negotiation
> before link is seen can easily take upto 45 seconds already.
> That's a network topology/hardware issue (spanning tree fun) that
> software or even the hardware in your PC can do nothing about.
It's about ergonomics, not technical capabilities or fairness.
> this means that the "power up time" needs to be at least 45 seconds, if
> it's then down 5 seconds inbetween... that's not real power savings.
Then that means you can't have usable autodetection and power savings
at the same time. That's a pefectly acceptable answer, you just have
to give the choice between the two to the user. From the kernel
p.o.v, it just means that you probably need 3 modes:
1- active and exchanging packets
2- inactive but waiting for plugging and able to tell something is
going on fast (like 0.5s fast)
3- powered off
and they probably already exist (UP+addr/procmisc. set, UP and DOWN).
And if the second mode can't be lower power than the first, that's
just life. An hypothetical mode 4 identical to 2 without the "fast"
part is just not worth bothering with.
OG.
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