Re: [PATCH 3/4] security: capabilities patch (version 0.4.4), part 3/4: introduce new capabilities

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Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!

Introduce six new "regular" (=on-by-default) capabilities:

* CAP_REG_FORK, CAP_REG_OPEN, CAP_REG_EXEC allow access to the
  fork(), open() and exec() syscalls,
CAP_REG_EXEC seems meaningless, I can do the same with mmap by hand for
most types of binary execution except setuid (which is separate it
seems)

Given the capability model is accepted as inferior to things like
SELinux policies why do we actually want to fix this anyway. It's
unfortunate we can't discard the existing capabilities model (which has
flaws) as well really.

To expand on this a little, some of the capabilities you are looking to add are of very little if any use without being able to specify objects. For example, CAP_REG_OPEN is whether the process can open any file instead of specific ones. How many applications open no files whatsoever in practice?

Filters, for example. gzip -9 - and such stuff does not need to open
any files. These should be easy to lock down, and still very useful.

More applications could be made lock-down-aware, and for example ask
master daemon to open files for them over a (already opened) socket.

Unlikely.. As Jan pointed out in the last thread anything that links against glibc does a dozen opens on invocation: [jbrindle@twoface ~]$ strace -eopen gzip -9 - open("/usr/lib64/fglrx/tls/x86_64/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib64/fglrx/tls/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib64/fglrx/x86_64/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib64/fglrx/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib/fglrx/tls/x86_64/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib/fglrx/tls/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib/fglrx/x86_64/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/lib/fglrx/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)      = 3
open("/lib64/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY)      = 3
gzip: compressed data not written to a terminal. Use -f to force compression.
For help, type: gzip -h
Process 17519 detached

this wouldn't be able to run if it couldn't open libc.so so you'd be limited to static binaries (with statically linked libs that don't do any open() calls) that don't do any kind of name resolution (ip, uid), have no config files, etc. very limited.. and my other point was that even if you did have said binary (the limitations make this very unlikely though) the binary could never be changed to open a file since it would then get all open access since capabilities are not fine grained.

The benefits of this are so minuscule and the cost is so high if you are ever to use it that it simply won't happen..

Joshua Brindle
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