Re: [RFC] Slimming down struct inode

["Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org>]

Theodore,

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Theodore Tso wrote:
> 
> I'm not particularly sympathetic to out of tree implementations,

I believe you asked for comments; not proposed to offer sympathy.

> especially one which is as (NOT!) likely to be merged as STREAMS
> support.  Out of tree patches can always patch struct inode to add all
> the bloat they want.

Bloat that nobody complained about for 10 years or so...  Sounds pretty
antagonistic to me.  Streams are pretty basic character devices.

> Also, it souinds like you're not usually using
> i_pipe as a true pointer to a struct pipe_inode_info, but rather as
> kludged location to stash your v_str pointer.

It points to a STREAMS-based FIFO which, of course, uses a Stream head
structure instead of a pipe_inode_info structure.  Is is used in the
same fashion as Linux FIFOs use the pointer: to attach information to
an inode in a foreign filesystem.  generic_ip and such does not help
here because they are already used by the foreign filesystem.

The cdev structure used to have a private pointer (cd_private) that
could be used to the same effect, but it disappeared some time ago when
char_device was reworked into cdev.  block_device still has a bd_private
pointer.  Merging i_pipe will remove the ability for a character
device driver to association a private pointer with the inode at open
to obtain FIFO-like behaviour (where the device is associated with the
specific inode rather than the device number), reducing the flexibility
of the Linux VFS.

i_pipe is not necessary for Unnamed FIFOs or pipes in Linux (those
inodes are allocated from the pipefs and could very well use the
generic_ip pointer.  i_pipe is only necessary for named FIFOs because
these are attached to inodes belonging to filesystems foreign to the
pipefs.  It is a slim special case of file on file mounting.  Regardless
of STREAMS I think that it deserves to be separate from i_cdev and
i_bdev.

All other basic character device mechanisms either allocate their own
inodes or hang their private data off of the open file pointer.  As
do STREAMS, which, aside from STREAMS-based FIFOs are basic character
devices.


> Why not just have your
> STREAMS implementation patch include/linux/fs.h to add a v_str pointer?

Because it does not patch the kernel but simply loads as a set of
GPL'ed kernel modules.
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