Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter)

[Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>]

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Matthias Andree wrote:

> Bernd Petrovitsch schrieb am 2006-06-13:
>
> > On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 23:05 -0400, Horst von Brand wrote:
> > > Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at> wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > Use secure authenticated mail submission on a known good MTA of said
> > > > domain (and even the smallest ISP should be able to set that up).
> > >
> > > So what? What should me make me trust some domain that I've never before
> >
> > Well, so everyone can send email through an MTA (the email accounts
> > "home MTA") covered in the SPF records.
>
> As (1) SPF this is demonstrably useless to establish trust and (2) the
> argument that SPF doesn't provide the required blacklist information
> hasn't been countered yet, it follows that
> SPF just makes life harder for everyone without real benefits in return.
>
> SPF also prefers end-to-end mailings and falls short when relays are
> used - but these are advocated by the SPF disciples.
>
> Can this SPF madness please be buried now?
>
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> Matthias Andree
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SPF can be useful though, as a lot of Asian spam, for example says they 
are hotmail.com and they are not, SPF can reject much faster than sender 
address verification.


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