Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Create initial kernel ABI header infrastructure

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On Mar 26, 2006, at 15:05:37, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 06:54:16AM -0500, Kyle Moffett wrote:
Create initial kernel ABI header infrastructure

diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile
index af6210d..8e9045a 100644
--- a/Makefile
+++ b/Makefile
@@ -787,13 +787,15 @@ ifneq ($(KBUILD_SRC),)
 		/bin/false; \
 	fi;
 	$(Q)if [ ! -d include2 ]; then mkdir -p include2; fi;
+	$(Q)if [ ! -d include2/kabi ]; then mkdir -p include2/kabi; fi;
 	$(Q)ln -fsn $(srctree)/include/asm-$(ARCH) include2/asm
+	$(Q)ln -fsn $(srctree)/include/kabi/arch-$(ARCH) include2/kabi/arch

No - we do not want another symlink.
Create something like:
include/i386/kabi-asm/  <= i386 specific files
include/kabi/           <= general files

Then we can do:
LINUXINCLUDE += -Iinclude/kabi-$(ARCH)
And the following would work like expected:
#include <kabi/foo.h>
#include <kabi-asm/foo.h>

Hmm, I see where you're going with this.  Thanks for the tip!

But this leaves all existing users in the dark cold. So a more involved approach could be to take the opposite approach. To dedicate an area for kernel only header files and make sure this directory is searched _before_ include/

I'm not entirely sure I understand this bit. The idea behind this kabi stuff is precisely to split out portions of the headers so that both userspace and kernelspace can get at them; to designate specific items as "userspace clean" by putting them in kabi; everything else need not care at all, and all those headers would remain in include/ linux where they are now. No sense moving _everything_ in include/ around, we just want the parts that userspace needs too.

And we have so many users of include/linux today. They do not need a _kabi_ prefix so let it go.

_Exactly_ the point. I'd like to leave 99% of the kernel code alone. Userspace doesn't work with the headers in the stock kernel as-is, so I see no problem with working to provide a clean source ABI even if it's partially incompatible with the old source ABI. The binary ABI would stay the same, though, and I'd try to fix the old source ABI where possible.

I think I'll try something like your original proposal:
include/kabi/			<= Userspace-clean generic ABI includes
include/$(ARCH)/		<= New arch-specific include directory
include/$(ARCH)/kabi-arch/	<= Arch-specific ABI includes

Then the following Makefile snippet:
LINUXINCLUDE += -Iinclude/$(ARCH)

And then in the header file:
#include <kabi-arch/stddef.h>
#include <kabi/types.h>

It would also be possible to move files from include/asm-$(ARCH) to include/$(ARCH)/asm if desired, but that's a little offtopic for the kernel-ABI headers project I'm working on right now.

Thanks for the advice!
Kyle Moffett

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