Re: DoS with POSIX file locks?

[Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>]

* Miklos Szeredi (miklos@szeredi.hu) wrote:
> > > Apps using LinuxThreads seem to be candidates:
> > > 
> > >      According to POSIX 1003.1c, a successful `exec*' in one of the
> > >      threads should automatically terminate all other threads in the
> > >      program.  This behavior is not yet implemented in LinuxThreads.
> > >      Calling `pthread_kill_other_threads_np' before `exec*' achieves
> > >      much of the same behavior, except that if `exec*' ultimately
> > >      fails, then all other threads are already killed.
> > > 
> > > steal_locks() was probably added as a workaround for this case, no?
> > 
> > Possibly, but LinuxThreads were never really POSIX thread compliant
> > anyway. Anyhow, the problem isn't really LinuxThreads, it is rather that
> > the existence of the standalone CLONE_FILES flag allows you to do a lot
> > of weird inheritance crap with 'posix locks' that the POSIX standards
> > committees never even had to consider.
> 
> Yes.  The execve-with-multiple-threads/posix-locks interaction is not
> documented for LinuxThreads but removing steal_locks() makes that
> implementation slighly differently incompatible to POSIX.  Some
> application _might_ be relying on the current behavior.
> 
> It's just a question of how much confidence do we have, that no app
> will break if steal_locks() is removed.  This function was added by
> Chris Wright on 2003-12-29 (Cset 1.1371.111.3):
> 
>   Add steal_locks helper for use in conjunction with unshare_files to
>   make sure POSIX file lock semantics aren't broken due to
>   unshare_files.
> 
> Chris, do you remember if this was due to some concrete breakage or
> just a preemtive measure?

Concrete breakage.  Something like:

clone(CLONE_FILES)
  /* in child */
  lock
  execve
  lock

w/out the kludge[1], the lock fails.  I should have a test program about
that I wrote to test this, although it was originally triggered via some
LTP or LSB type of test (don't recall which).

thanks,
-chris

[1] happy to see it go.  i concur with Trond, there's no sane way to get
rid of it w/out formalizing CLONE_FILES and locks on exec
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