On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 04:28:15PM -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
>...
> Given Neil Brown's fix for the block layer these stack-heavy workloads
> that included DM in the call chain need to be revisited. However, the
> savings associated with those particular fixes still may not leave
> sufficient breathing room. The logic that all users must NOW provide
> workloads which undermine 4K stack viability otherwise the 8K option
> will be completely removed _seems_ quite irrational (even though we
> are _supposedly_ just talking about doing so in -mm).
>
> All of us appreciate the desire to have Linux be more efficient and 4K
> stacks will get us that. If it comes with the cost of instability
> under more exotic workloads then the bad outweighs the perceived good
> of imposed 4K stacks. With RHEL4 it would seem we're past the point
> of no-return for supported 8K stacks. I'm merely advocating upstream
> give users the 8K+IRQ stack _options_ and set the default to 4K.
My count of bug reports for problems with in-kernel code with 4k stacks
after Neil's patch went into -mm is still at 0. That's amazing
considering how many people have claimed in this thread how unstable
4k stacks were...
Enabling 4k stacks unconditionally for all -mm users will give us a
wider testing coverage and will tell us whether we have really fixed all
bugs that become visible with 4k stacks or whether there are still bugs
left.
-mm kernels contain many experimental features, and "completely removed"
isn't really true because we can expect that people running the
experimental -mm kernels to know how to un-apply a patch.
> Mike
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