Re: [Lhms-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Fragmentation Avoidance V19

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On Nov 4, 2005, at 10:31:48, Linus Torvalds wrote:
I can pretty much guarantee that any kernel I maintain will never have dynamic kernel pointers: when some memory has been allocated with kmalloc() (or equivalent routines - pretty much _any_ kernel allocation), it stays put.

Hmm, this brings up something that I haven't seen discussed on this list (maybe a long time ago, but perhaps it should be brought up again?). What are the pros/cons to having a non-physically-linear kernel virtual memory space? Would it be theoretically possible to allow some kind of dynamic kernel page swapping, such that the _same_ kernel-virtual pointer goes to a different physical memory page? That would definitely satisfy the memory hotplug people, but I don't know what the tradeoffs would be for normal boxen.

It seems like the trick would be to make sure that page accesses _during_ the swap are correctly handled. If the page-swapper included code in the kernel fault handler to notice that a page was in the process of being swapped out/in by another CPU, it could just wait for swap-in to finish and then resume from the new page. This would get messy with DMA and non-cpu memory accessors and such, which are what I assume the reasons for not implementing this in the past have been.

From what I can see, the really dumb-obvious-slow method would be to call the first and last parts of software-suspend. As memory hotplug is a relatively rare event, this would probably work well enough given the requirements:
    1)  Run software suspend pre-memory-dump code
2) Move pages off the to-be-removed node, remapping the kernel space to the new locations.
    3)  Mark the node so that new pages don't end up on it
    4)  Run software suspend post-memory-reload code

<random-guessing>
Perhaps the non-contiguous memory support would be of some help here?
</random-guessing>

Cheers,
Kyle Moffett

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Simple things should be simple and complex things should be possible
  -- Alan Kay



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