Nikita Danilov wrote:
> Marc Perkel writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > Right - that's Unix "inside the box" thinking. The idea is to make the
> > operating system smarter so that the user doesn't have to deal with
> > what's computer friendly - but reather what makes sense to the user.
> > From a user's perspective if you have not rights to access a file then
> > why should you be allowed to delete it?
>
> Because in Unix a name is not an attribute of a file.
>
> Files are objects that you read, write and truncate. They are
> represented by inodes.
>
> Separately from that, there is an indexing structure: directory
> tree. Directories map symbolical names to inodes. Obviously, adding a
> reference to an index, or removing it from one requires access
> permission to the _index_ rather then to the object being referenced.
>
> That two-level model of files and indexing on top of them is essential
> to Unix due to the flexibility and conceptual economy it provides.
>
We should print that on post-it notes for grandmothers
to read when they are interacting with Unix file systems.
> >
> > So - the thread is about the future so I say - time to fix Unix.
>
> One thing is clear: it's too late to fix Netware. Why should Unix
> emulate its lethal defects?
Like NetWare's defect of it being intuitive and easy to
administer file system rights? Hey, here's a thought. Maybe
the operating system could actually exist to SERVE the human
instead of vice versa.
-- Tim
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Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Electronics
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