On Monday 12 September 2005 2:47 pm, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> On Sep 12, 2005, at 12:03:11, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Sunday 11 September 2005 4:36 pm, Helge Hafting wrote:
> >> Look again. X config files now have "IsolateDevice" and "BusID"
> >> to deal with this. At least iff you get your X from ubuntu or
> >> debian testing . . .
> >
> > Yes, but I think IsolateDevice still isn't quite enough if you
> > have VGA devices behind PCI-PCI bridges. In other words, devices
> > behind bridges still get disabled, even with IsolateDevice.
> >
> > And the ideal situation would be if IsolateDevice could be the
> > *default*, but the X bugzilla[1] says some devices have problems
> > with that.
>
> IIRC, someone was working on a VGA arbiter and some PCI-access kernel
> code
> upon which X.org could be rebuilt. Then all the messy /dev/mem issues
> relating to PCI bus smashing go away (including the need for iopl, root
> privts, etc), and a properly configured system could run X.org as a
> normal
> user on any attached devices that user has permission to, including
> video
> cards, displays, keyboards, mice, graphics tablets, joysticks, etc.
>
> Unfortunately the project is not exactly small, so it wasn't moving very
> quickly last I remember...
It's not small, but definitely not dead. SGI ia64 boxes already
do this, and I'm got similar kernel support for HP ia64 boxes almost
ready to go. But I don't work much on X.org, so I don't know how
long it will take to push the changes there.
And the kernel VGA arbiter is still missing, so I currently have
to turn off VGA console support in the kernel.
And of course, things would be much more interesting if the x86
support were in place.
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