Re: reiser4 plugins

[David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>]

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Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 11:25:24PM -0500, David Masover wrote:
>
>>>You're basically implementing another VFS layer inside of reiser4, which
>>>is a big layering violation.
>>
>>There's been sloppy code in the kernel before.  I remember one bit in
>>particular which was commented "Fuck me gently with a chainsaw."  If I
>>remember correctly, this had all of the PCI ids and the names and
>>manufacturers of the corresponding devices -- in a data structure -- in
>>C source code.  It was something like one massive array definition, or
>>maybe it was a structure.  I don't remember exactly, but...
>
>
> Every device driver has a big array of corresponing device ids as an
> array in C code - oh my god we're doomed  .. not.

I could throw the same sarcasm back at you.  We must be doomed because
Reiser does some stuff that VFS already does!  Or am I misunderstanding
the complaint?

>>I agree there, too.  In fact, some people have suggested that all
>>"legacy" (read: non-reiser) filesystems should be implemented as Reiser4
>>plugins, effectively killing VFS.*
>>
>>So, Reiser4 may eventually take over VFS and be the only Linux
>>filesystem, but if so, it will have to do it much more slowly.  Take the
>>good ideas -- things like plugins -- and make them at least look like
>>incremental updates to the current VFS, and make them available to all
>>filesystems.
>
>
> And why exactly would we replace a stable, working abstraction with an
unpoven
> mess?

How does it get proven if you won't give it a chance as a *separate*
unproven mess, with a big fat EXPERIMENTAL flag, for users to play with?

I know, it exists as a separate patch.  But it works now, and I think
the best way to "prove" it would be to package it with the kernel.

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