On 7/30/2010 10:24 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 09:39 -0400, David wrote: >> I would think that qualifies as a driver problem. :-) > > I agree. > >> But not a Windows driver problem. Why not? It is a HP problem. Their >> hardware and their driver(s). Windows had nothing to do with any of >> this. Microsoft gave plenty of time for hardware makers to produce new >> drivers for Vista. The hardware makers did not do it for older >> hardware. >> Why? Because they wanted you to buy new hardware. Microsoft, Vista, >> took >> the heat for them not providing the drivers. > > Which is what I said. Note that you didn't ask about "problems caused by > MS" but about "Windows Driver Hell". > >> Which is the whole point here. Fedora and Nvidia for example. The >> Nvidia >> driver(s) is/are supplied by Nvidia. Fedora does not, nor can they, >> provide these. Fedora provides a FOSS driver for this purpose. This >> 'Nvidia thing' is not Fedora's problem. Nor is it RPMfusion's problem. >> RPMfusion very nicely provides a module. But they don't have to do >> that. > > To be clear: I'm not arguing with this position, which is perfectly > logical and which I agree with. I was merely responding to your request > for concrete examples of driver problems in Windows. Sure. Sorry. I understand. But I guess you caught the heat. :-) So that's one example which you 'documented' well. My complaint(s) are with the vague claims that some make but then never show any proof. Which I am seeing more and more of these days. -- David
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